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近期很有幸与北京某影视中心录音棚赵老师相约,我带着SE ELECTRONICS Z5600A和Beyerdynamic MC 834两款普乐音频代理的电容话筒前往其录音棚 ,与棚里的Neumann U87一起进行了人声录音,让这三款话筒有了一次最直面的比较。









录音时话筒摆位如上图,采用人字形摆位,尽可能让三只话筒振膜都能以最好的角度对准歌手。
  • 话放:Millennia HV-3D-4
  • 录音话筒1:Neumann U87
  • 录音话筒2:Beyerdynamic MC 834
  • 录音话筒3:SE ELECTRONICS Z5600A
  • 录音软件:ProTools HD8.1
  • 音频接口:Digidesign HD2+192 I/O
  • 软件控制器:Digidesign Control 24
  • 监听对比音箱:Tannoy SYETEM1200、 GENELEC 1030A、Dynaudio BM6A各一对
  • 歌手:罗汉
棚里当时有SSL Alpha VHD-PRE 4和Millennia HV-3D-4两台话放,为了前期尽量真实,最终选择了染色较小的 Millennia 进行录音。

录音轨道轨道截图:
U87已经不用多言,历经多年全世界音乐人的考验,它是一款非常优秀的电容话筒,已经成为话筒领域的一个标杆。
Z5600A作为一款单电子管话筒,长期以来在网上也炒的火热,各种评测和讨论层出不穷。你可以从试听文件中捕捉到丰富的电子管细节。在这三款话筒里,它高频最为透彻。如果不想花很大的价钱,却想拥有电子管的声音,Z5600A肯定是目前市场上的首选,九种指向性的可变调节,也为它在中低价位电子管话筒的火并中加足了筹码。




MC834相对大多数中国用户来说,可能稍显陌生。提起拜亚动力,所有人想到的是高端的耳机,T1、T50p、DT150、DT770、DT880……,经典耳机不胜枚举,拜亚动力也是耳机和无线话筒的发明者。拜亚动力的录音话筒产品线也相当丰富,各种用途的动圈和电容话筒可以说是应有尽有,其中不乏荣获2011红点设计大奖的TG现场麦克风系列。
本次试用的MC834属于拜亚动力的中档次大振膜电容话筒,外观造型很特别,仔细观察,振膜并非是一般话筒采用的圆形,而是长方形胶囊内置圆形振膜( 官方原文The diaphragm is round, the capsule (housing) is square ),估计是为了合理减小振膜面积,增加声压级的耐受度,另外仍然能保留大振膜话筒特点。官方资料称,没有预衰减时,话筒可承受130 dB的声压级;带预衰减时,话筒可承受150 dB的声压级。MC834为心形指向,带有80HZ和160HZ两段低切开关和-10db、-20db衰减开关。

隐约透过金属网罩可以看到长方形的振膜胶囊,很特别
三款话筒的官方频响曲线(心形指向):
Neumann 纽曼 U87 :


Beyerdynamic MC 834:

SE ELECTRONICS Z5600A II :
音频文件试听:
Neumann 纽曼 U87 :
(Soundcloud 链接:http://soundcloud.com/audioplaza/no-1-u87
Beyerdynamic MC 834:
(Soundcloud 链接:http://soundcloud.com/audioplaza/no-2-mc834
SE ELECTRONICS Z5600A II :
(Soundcloud 链接:http://soundcloud.com/audioplaza/no-3-z5600a
试听文件未经过任何调整和修饰,且录音过程中话放的每个通道增益调节完全一致。

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从录音结果来开,U87的电平是最大的,MC834和Z5600A的电平基本相当。在话放设置同等增益电平的情况下,U87的动态最为丰富;你在听另外两个轨道时,如果将声卡增益开大一点点,再来观察的话,MC834和Z5600A的动态也很丰富,并不逊于U87。


Z5600A保持了一贯高频透亮的特点,中高频部分明显具有穿透力,后期缩混时候,Z5600A的人声更容易凸显出来。


MC834对人声的还原度很高,中频、低频的细节都很丰富,不敢想象这种声音是从这样一个外观不起眼的话筒中得到的。对后期来说,MC834得到的声音可塑性应该是最强的。在相同的电平下,声音的密度、动态都与U87接近,只是声音色彩较U87与Z5600A来说比较偏暗。





对比表


Neumann U87


Beyerdynamic
MC834


SE ELECTRONICS
Z5600A




动态


★★★★★


★★★★☆


★★★☆




亮度


★★★★☆


★★★★


★★★★★




声音密度


★★★★★


★★★★★


★★★★




最大声压级


最大声压级(小于0.5% THD 2):117 dB(无预衰减);127 dB(有预衰减)


最大声压级:0.5 %的THD @ 1000 : 135分贝




最大声压级 :130 dB
* 140 dB(预衰减-10 dB)
* 150 dB(预衰减-20 dB)




配件


木质外壳,防震架


工程塑料手提箱,防震架


铝制防护箱,木质收纳盒,防震架,电源盒,电源线,话筒线,防震架备用皮筋




市场价格


约¥1.7万


约¥0.95万


约¥0.6万


从以上对比表直观看出,每款话筒都有其特点,另外MC834和Z5600A的价格与U87都相差悬殊,所以这几款话筒的性价比不言而喻。

以下是赵老师对这三款话筒的点评:

U87是一只无可厚非的话筒,大家都很喜欢,民族、美声、通俗都可以很好地表现其特性,配合通透极致的Millennia HV-3D-4话放,可以发挥的很好。用惯了U87和KM103之后,我也一直在寻找一只能够与其相当而且要有自己特色的话筒,声音要有亲切感的特点,特别希望是电子管的,呵呵,因为我手里没有这样的话筒,虽然在朋友的棚里用过电子管话放和其他的话筒,但是概念不一样的,经过这次对比测试,我个人感觉,Z5600A有很好的潜质能够达到我的要求,通透的高音、带有温暖的中频,适合人声和传统乐器的SOLO,;MC834 虽然其貌不扬,,但是德国的那种内在的品质犹在,可以听到稳重而有密度的结实的声音,虽然我没有通过他们录制其他的乐器SOLO ,但是通过听音对比,我个人认为MC834这只中性的话筒,后期的可塑性会更大,三只话筒属于各有所需吧。
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